It’s time for Warren Beatty and Annette Bening to have a heart to heart talk with Cher. The Beatty’s oldest daughter Kathlyn, wants to be a man and is determined to have a sex change operation as soon as possible. The National Enquirer reported that Warren is crushed and doesn’t know what to do. (Little did former lothario Warren suspect fatherhood would be SO complicated!) Kathlyn’s been talking about changing her gender for years and plans to take matters into her own hands now that she’s 18. She is currently attending college dressed as a boy named “Stephen.” Cher’s daughter Chastity went through this surgery and Chaz seems to be living happily ever after.


Posted by Janet on June 17, 2010

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  1. By Village
    On June 17, 2010 at

    Good for him. It’s important to be who you are. Blessed are those who figure it out and know so young. Maybe if more celebrities come out as transgender, it will become more acceptable.

    I think this may just be the another case with very prominent parents, with others to follow. Like Rock Hudson who came out as gay, once a golden child of immensely prominent parents declare as transgender, it will change the landscape.

  2. By Bettye Bluejay
    On June 17, 2010 at

    Beatty appears to have dementia, so he’ll forget soon enough.

  3. By SebastianCanada
    On June 17, 2010 at

    Yikes! I cannot fathom the pain and confusion that must result in such a decision, and cannot pretend to understand the realities of trans-gender. Can only wish Chastity, Kathlyn, and the rest do find the peace of mind they hope such decisions bring.

  4. By Hilary
    On June 17, 2010 at

    I so agree w/ Village! And also, I agree with you, Janet — Mr. Beatty needs to sit down w/ Cher. Let Kathlyn follow her heart — sounds like she has felt this way even as a young child (same as Chaz Bono. And yes, as this procedure becomes more accepted, it will be so much better for all involved. 🙂

  5. By Reta
    On June 17, 2010 at

    I agree with all three of you. This child, who IS still a child in the scheme of maturity’s sake, should not make any rash decisions that are permanent just yet. Look how long Chaz Bono went before really making the move to finalize it. I think 18 is far too young to know what you want for your future.

    Perhaps this girl is just a lesbian. She LOOKS very feminine to me and I can’t imagine her in any sort of male role. She doesn’t have a male build and is slight with delicate features. It will be next to impossible to transform believibly into a male even with surgery and hormones, her FRAME is just too slight to begin with. Those hands are beautiful and feminine and there’s nothing she can do to make them look masculine. I’m afraid she is stuck with what nature gave her, she better learn to live in it and enjoy what she has.

  6. By captain america
    On June 18, 2010 at

    just use your tongue & DILDO’s.
    ………….nothing more!!

  7. By strom
    On June 18, 2010 at

    Just tell her no way will I pay! Thats the problem with this faggot focused society when any little thing goes wrong,the kids of the rich want to come up with a screwballanswer and the pc world thinks they should support.

    What a stupid idea for “Chaz”or this weirdo either.

  8. By Lenny
    On June 18, 2010 at

    This really karma for Warren Beatty and all the stuff he pulled and got away back in his day.

  9. By Sally
    On June 18, 2010 at

    Even though she’s wanted the reassignment for a while, I don’t think she should rush to go through with it until she’s thought about this thoroughly. These are the types of surgeries that are intense not only on the physical, but at both an emotional and mental level. Aside from the therapy, psychological examinations, and horomones prescribed, reassignments don’t happen over night. They take a while as a way to mentally and physically prepare the patient for the transformation.

  10. By Denise
    On June 18, 2010 at

    I had heard that a Hollywood couple had a daughter who wanted to change their sex, but I had no idea who it was. I hope she/he gets counselling before she/he does anything. And I hope that her parents are supportive of whatever decision she makes.

  11. By funky booty
    On June 18, 2010 at

    reta, femininity has nothing to do with this.
    trans-gender/gender reassignment has everything to do with what the person believes they are “inisde”. the outside means nothing.
    there are gay males who are very small and thin in stature.

    she will be a male who has a small body frame.

  12. By Kylie
    On June 18, 2010 at

    I don’t get it. Where in nature are animals changing their gender? it seems like some sort of body dysmorphic disorder IMO.

  13. By Reta
    On June 18, 2010 at

    Kylie, I think you have something there. I think maybe it IS some form of that disorder where people just can’t see themselves as they are. Also if she is attracted to women and feels masculine she MAY be just gay and confused at THIS tender age is all I was saying. I think its far too sonn and early to go cutting breasts off, taking male hormones and rearranging her sexual organs surgically. Besides, the female to male transgenders are not so successful surgically and are not functional as a male sexually. Putting ON a penis where there WAS none is basically impossible, whereas taking OFF a penis and using that to create a “female” is far easier surgically. There are a plethorea of new females running around out there and not so manny males, and if you listen to the males you’ll hear them say they have not had the “full” surgery because it will remove their ability to have an orgasm. Such as the recent “pregnant man” who was a woman who removed her breast and took male hormones ONLY and thus was able to still concieve and carry and give birth to TWO children. I’m betting this is what this young girl will wind up doing. The surgery just isn’t THERE yet for her to completely become a male in form. Hopefully she’ll get all the help she needs and will be happy in the end.

  14. By cal
    On June 18, 2010 at

    18 is to young to make this decision and follow through

  15. By SebastianCanada
    On June 18, 2010 at

    Funky booty, what is “female” and what is “male”? So much of this is about society-defined roles. Perhaps without those rigidly defined roles (which seem to get more rigid with each generation) people would not be driven to such extremes as full gender reassignment, which is – to all intents and purposes – sexual mutilation approved by the medical establishment. There is some light in the tunnel – I recently read of female-to-male trans-genders who – while undergoing hormone therapy to be “male”- have chosen to keep their female genitalia intact.

  16. By Reta
    On June 18, 2010 at

    Yes, Sebastian, that is usually what happens with the female to male due to the unsatisfactory results offered by the actual genital surgery. What mostly seems to happen with these cases is the breats wind up being removed and then hormones bring facial hair and a deepening voice and slightly more muscled body. This is the case in the two “pregnant men” and Chaz Bono too.

    In MY humble opinion, without a penis, you are still just a woman who got your boobs cut off and you’re taking hormones. I feel it’s a form of mental illness, such as the body dysmorphic disorder.

    I was recently watching a show on OCD and the people who were convinced their very thoughts could kill. They could not be convinced otherwise. The human mind is a mysterious and powerful organ, and the root of this sad issue.

  17. By witbitchsaid
    On June 18, 2010 at

    Yah,I feel sorry for these delusional fuck white bitches that think they are chics with a dicks. God,they are so stupid!! and pscho

  18. By Kylie
    On June 18, 2010 at

    I want to know what these people did before these surgeries existed? Surgery has only been around since the 1950’s so were there people in the 1800’s and ancient times that felt this way? What did they do? It seems like a fairly recent phenomenon because I don’t see examples in history where people felt the need to cut their genitals off. Gay people have been around since the bible but where are the biblical examples of transgender?

  19. By Sally
    On June 18, 2010 at

    Not all gender reassignments have to do with sexuality or body dysmorphic disorders. In most cases these reassignments are useful to intersex individuals who were born with male and female parts. I’m a registered nurse and I’ve come across many individuals with such problems. It’s alot more common than you think. Like I said before the procedure is pretty intense and emotionally taxing on the individual and their respective families.

  20. By clementine
    On June 19, 2010 at

    I say live and let live, but I also agree with most of ya’ll who say she’s too young to have the surgery. What if she changes her mind at 25? 30? If she really wants to be a boy, let her live like one for awhile. Most Drs. wont do the surgery until you’ve lived as the opposite sex for at least a year. When you’re younger, perhaps the length of time is even longer. This isn’t some quick ‘need a nose job’ or ‘want fuller lips’ kinda surgery. This is big-time, permanent, life changing surgery. And should be entered into w/ all the facts and info. 18 is just too young to be making these decisions.

  21. By LettucePrey
    On June 19, 2010 at

    Considering that the human brain isn’t fully developed until the median age of 25, 18 is DEF too young! She needs to mentally marinate on this deal for a few years.

    There’s some movie out there that touched on this subject, cannot recall, but I do remember this line:

    “It’s easier to dig a hole than build a pole.”

  22. By E
    On June 19, 2010 at

    Kylie, throughout history there have been people who have been in this situation. They do do horrific things like try to hack off their penises or breasts unanesthetized, and many have committed suicide over it.

    For those who are worried that Kathlyn will change her mind, in this country there are laws about having to live as that gender for I think it’s two years, plus have counseling, and that’s even before considering the issue of cost.

    I had a friend who was born intersex and was deemed to be male, but always felt female; was given huge unstudied doses of hormones by doctors, ended up with huge medical problems which appeared to be related, and finally killed himself because it was all too much to handle (there were complicating factors here involving his parents’ rigid role for him, and his identity being stolen in another state, an abusive boss before he went back to school for a PhD. His future was looking up at the time, with a new relationship, the love of friends, admiration of colleagues, and desired return to school, but the knee problems started up again and became crippling and I think there were further medical issues, and it was too much).

    A friend of friends was born female and has always felt male, has planned and been saving for operations since before 18 (the parents are supportive though), saved up for and had a mastectomy two years ago, considers himself male and is quite happy that way (as a female, was never happy)

    I think that people who are concerned about Body Dysmorphic Disorder may have a point about some people, but I definitely do not feel this covers the majority of people in this position.

    Imagine if you had to wake up tomorrow being exactly the same person, but in the body of the other gender — would you be ready to embrace it? That is what it is like for a lot of people.

    There is truly a component of gender that we do not understand, some kind of internal identity that does not always match the “outside.” This has been proven time and time again with people born intersex. America is rife with history of botched attempts where doctors performed surgery on intersex infants to try to make them into one gender or the other, with often painful and disfiguring results, and the child feeling like the other gender and never feeling right, like they could truly be themselves. (My understanding is that there are also cases of people who were “assigned correctly”)

    The most significant examples proving an internal component of gender, are those in which the body was successfully mapped onto one gender, and the person always felt like the other gender. This does happen, everyone wants them to “just get used to it,” and they cannot. Could you get used to being the other gender? I genuinely don’t think I could. I am lucky in this culture to have been born a heterosexual female in the right body; I have had it easy.

    There is such pressure about gender conformity in this culture; there is so much abuse that people who are gay or transgender become magnets for, do you really think so many people would volunteer to take it on?

    I wish Kathlyn and Chaz well and hope that they are able to find and forge their happiness.

  23. By E
    On June 19, 2010 at

    Not all gender reassignments have to do with sexuality or body dysmorphic disorders. In most cases these reassignments are useful to intersex individuals who were born with male and female parts. I’m a registered nurse and I’ve come across many individuals with such problems. It’s alot more common than you think. Like I said before the procedure is pretty intense and emotionally taxing on the individual and their respective families.

    Sally, thank you for posting this. My father was a doctor; and his experience echoed yours.

  24. By SebastianCanada
    On June 19, 2010 at

    If I woke up tomorrow morning as a woman, I would never be able to leave my house – nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

  25. By me
    On June 19, 2010 at

    No one has mentioned that Chastity was sexualized by an adult female. Ya’ll act like it’s so okay but notice this, she was being sexually abused by a woman for years. Most of my homosexual friends admit to some sort of sexual abuse. Many of the gals were raped by daddy or some other family member and same for the men. If children are sexualized by adults it can really change their sexual identity.

  26. By E
    On June 20, 2010 at

    If I woke up tomorrow morning as a woman, I would never be able to leave my house – nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

    Heh;-) “What is this thing called, Love?” to quote an old Benny Hill episode.

  27. By Chucky
    On June 20, 2010 at

    First: Kathlyn was 5’7″ by the age of 15 and still growing, so she’s not particularly small should she pursue her desire to become a man.
    Second: Annette & Warren are and always have been great parents to their children, all four of them. To post about possible sexual abuse by adults opens the door to innuendo that either one of them might have been guilty of this to their children and that couldn’t be further from the truth.
    All 4 Beatty kids were precocious and are very smart. In fact, Warren has always said Kathlyn’s intelligence is “off the charts”, which is a big thing since he himself is one of the most intelligent people in the business. The Beatty kids were raised in a very warm, respectful and nurturing environment. Although Kathlyn has been hinting at what was coming for years, we should totally empathize with both parents for they will first have to lose a daughter, before welcoming a son. A major decision like this affects not just the gender changing person, but their entire (family) circle. They should all be left alone to deal with it.

  28. By LettucePrey
    On June 20, 2010 at

    Chucky, I really like your post….I hope it’s true. It surely seems to be.

    This decision is most definitely serious. That’s why I posted that the human brain is not fully developed until 25 years of age (median). Hopefully, she can wait a few more years.

    I’ve had pain in my life, but nothing like this. I can’t fathom what an agony that has to be. Hell, I haven’t even had sexuality issues, hence, I’m baffled at how tortuous this must be. Ignorant, mean-spirited outsiders just add to the emotional hot spot.

    My best thoughts/feelings are with Kathlyn.

  29. By Denise
    On June 21, 2010 at

    For the very first time, I have learned some valuable information on a gossip site. Of course, this does not include anything said by SebastianCanada, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

  30. By me
    On June 26, 2010 at

    @Chucky Very touching and insightful that first they will have to loose their daughter to gain a son.

  31. By icon library
    On September 17, 2012 at

    Very good piece

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